Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

03/18/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 281 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+= HB 282 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
+= HB 149 CHILD CARE PROVIDER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 149(FIN) Out of Committee
+ HB 289 AK MARIJUANA INDUSTRY TASK FORCE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 9 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL; ALCOHOL REG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
 HOUSE BILL NO. 289                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      "An Act establishing the Alaska marijuana industry                                                                        
     task force; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 3:30:28 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    GRIER HOPKINS,     SPONSOR,   provided    an                                                                  
                of the bill and read from a prepared                                                                            
      Good  afternoon members  of the committee  and Co-Chairs                                                                  
      Foster  and  Merrick,  for  the  record,  Representative                                                                  
      Grier  Hopkins representing Northwest  Fairbanks, Ester,                                                                  
      Goldstream,   Steese,  Farmers  Loop,   Birch  Hill  and                                                                  
      Downtown   Fox.  With  me  today   is  my  staffer,  Joe                                                                  
      Hardenbrook.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      Thank  you for hearing  House Bill 289  today. This bill                                                                  
      would  establish  the  Alaska  Marijuana  Industry  Task                                                                  
      Force  to take  a holistic  look at our  state's growing                                                                  
      marijuana   industry,    analyze   its   strengths   and                                                                  
      weaknesses,  and  propose  a package  of  reforms. These                                                                  
      proposed  reforms  would be  submitted to  the Marijuana                                                                  
      Control  Board,  the Governor  and  the  Legislature for                                                                  
      consideration  and  possible  action     in  part  or in                                                                  
      whole.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
      Why is this legislation necessary?                                                                                        
      In   2014,    Alaska   voters   legalized   recreational                                                                  
      marijuana.    Since  that  time,  thousands  of Alaskans                                                                  
      have  sought to  participate in  this new  industry   as                                                                  
      business  owners,   workers,  investors,  consumers  and                                                                  
      more.  This industry is  a uniquely Alaskan  one   state                                                                  
      law requires  that license holders  be Alaska residents,                                                                  
      resulting  in  an  Alaska  marijuana  market  owned  and                                                                  
      operated  by  Alaskans selling  products  grown, tested,                                                                  
      processed and purchased here in the Last Frontier.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
      The industry  which has emerged  from the passage of the                                                                  
      voter  initiative  in  2014  is  supported  by  Alaskans                                                                  
      across  the state    but it  is facing  some challenges.                                                                  
      Many  business owners are struggling  to comply with the                                                                  
      letter  and  spirit  of  the  law,  and several  factors                                                                  
      including  taxation, licensing  and enforcement continue                                                                  
      to  challenge  the  industry.  Recent  reporting  by the                                                                  
      Anchorage  Daily News    articles which  are included in                                                                  
      the  bill  packet -  shows  ongoing frustration  amongst                                                                  
      the   Alaskan   entrepreneurs   who've   invested  time,                                                                  
      resources, and energy in this new market.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      While  I'm  a  firm believer  in  free  markets  and the                                                                  
      inevitable   sorting   of  winners   and  losers   in  a                                                                  
      capitalist  system,  Alaska's  marijuana   industry   is                                                                  
      OURS,  and we elected  officials can and  should set the                                                                  
      rules  for the thousands of Alaskans  who've seen fit to                                                                  
      invest  their  hard-earned  dollars,  time,  and  energy                                                                  
      into this new market. We can and should ensure that                                                                       
      the  rules WE set  to govern  OUR industry  are fair and                                                                  
      reasonable  and  offer  those  Alaskans  who  pursue    a                                                                 
      career  or  business investment  in  Alaska  can achieve                                                                  
      success  while playing by  the rules. We  can and should                                                                  
      ensure  that local governments  continue to  play a role                                                                  
      in  authorizing,  monitoring,  and  generating   revenue                                                                  
      from this new industry.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
       Make no mistake, there are solutions to these                                                                            
      problems  -  but  they  involve  give  and take  amongst                                                                  
      members  of  the industry,  state  regulators  and local                                                                  
      governments.   In  order  to   pursue  a  strategy  that                                                                  
      strengthens   our  Alaska  businesses,   protects  local                                                                  
      control  and places  our industry  on a  firmer economic                                                                  
      footing,  HB 289  proposes that  this task  force review                                                                  
      the  issue, develop  ideas for industry  reform, utilize                                                                  
      state  resources  to  model  how  those  changes   would                                                                  
      affect   businesses,   local   governments   and   state                                                                  
      revenue.  Additionally, I  think it is  fitting that the                                                                  
      cost  of  these  efforts  will  be  borne  by    license                                                                  
      receipts   from  Alaska's  marijuana   industry.  That's                                                                  
      correct    the cost of this task  force will be paid for                                                                  
      by  the   thousands  of  Alaskans   who've  invested  in                                                                  
      Alaska's marijuana industry.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      At this point, I'll turn to Mr. Hardenbrook to walk                                                                       
      the committee through the bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 JOE HARDENBROOK, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE GRIER HOPKINS, read                                                                     
 from a prepared statement. He explained how the task force                                                                     
 would operate.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      The selection process for the thirteen members of the                                                                     
      task force has been crafted to ensure representation,                                                                     
      expertise, and geographic diversity.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      The  task force  will  be chaired  by  the chair  of the                                                                  
      Marijuana  Control  Board. The  two state  agencies most                                                                  
      closely  involved   in  Alaska's  marijuana  industry                                                                     
      Commerce  and  Revenue -  will be  represented  by their                                                                  
      commissioners  or  their designees.  Because so  many of                                                                  
      these  questions are economic  in nature, we've reserved                                                                  
      a seat  for an economist from  the University of Alaska.                                                                  
      Because  the voter initiative  carved out specific roles                                                                  
      and rights  for local governments,  we've included three                                                                  
      municipal    government    representatives,     with    a                                                                 
      requirement that those officials come from different                                                                      
      judicial   districts  and   represent  the   breadth  of                                                                  
      Alaska's  local   governments     cities  and  boroughs.                                                                  
      Because  those most affected  by a  decision should have                                                                  
      a  role in  making that  decision, we've  reserved three                                                                  
      seats    a quarter of the task  force's membership   for                                                                  
      representatives  of  the  Alaska   marijuana   industry.                                                                  
      Like  the  local  government  seats,  these  task  force                                                                  
      members  must  hail  from  different judicial  districts                                                                  
      and  represent the  breadth  of industry    cultivators,                                                                  
      processors,  and retailers. The  governor will appoint  a                                                                 
      member  representing  public health  interests. Finally,                                                                  
      there  are two legislative seats,  in the hopes that the                                                                  
      input  and advice of legislators  can help craft a final                                                                  
      product with a greater chance of enactment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      As  Rep. Hopkins  mentioned,  this task  force is  not  a                                                                 
      permanent  creation.  Rather,  it must  meet  four times                                                                  
      over  the  interim,  conduct  their  work,  craft  their                                                                  
      proposals,  model their data,  and submit their findings                                                                  
      to   the   executive   and   legislative   branches  for                                                                  
      consideration  and  potential  action.  This legislation                                                                  
      does  not create  a new,  permanent position  but rather                                                                  
      relies  on  a  temporary  position  to  assist  the task                                                                  
      force  in crafting  its final  product. The  findings  of                                                                 
      this  task force  are, first  and  foremost non-binding,                                                                  
      and  are  not  limited  to suggestions  for  legislative                                                                  
      fixes    suggestions may include  statutory, regulatory,                                                                  
      and administrative changes.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
      A   top-down,  "one-size-fits-all"   solution   to  this                                                                  
      complex  issue  will most  likely  result  in additional                                                                  
      challenges  to  the industry  and  may  cause unforeseen                                                                  
      circumstances   which   compound  problems   instead  of                                                                  
      rectifying   them.  As   we've  repeatedly   heard  from                                                                  
      representatives  of  all  the  different  businesses and                                                                  
      resource   development  activities   in  Alaska,  fiscal                                                                  
      certainty  and  good data  are  essential  components of                                                                  
      any successful business enterprise.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      And  to  reiterate  what Rep.  Hopkins  mentioned  - the                                                                  
      cost  of  these  efforts  will  be  borne  by    program                                                                  
      receipts  and  licensing  fees  from Alaska's  marijuana                                                                  
      industry.  That's  correct      the  cost  of  this task                                                                  
      force  will be paid for by  the Alaskans who've invested                                                                  
      in Alaska's marijuana industry.                                                                                           
      Chair  Merrick,  two  amendments  were  adopted  by  the                                                                  
      Labor  &  Commerce   Committee.  One  change  moves  the                                                                  
      proposed  task force from in-person  meetings to remote,                                                                  
      video  conferenced meetings, resulting  in a substantial                                                                  
      savings  in travel and lodging  costs. Another amendment                                                                  
      added a public health seat to the task force.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
      Chair  Merrick, I'd also like to  note for the committee                                                                  
      that  we  have  Glen  Klinkhart,  the  Director  of  the                                                                  
      Alcohol   and  Marijuana   Control  Office   online  for                                                                  
      questions  about the  fiscal note.  Thank you,  and I'll                                                                  
      conclude my presentation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 3:35:30 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Merrick asked the department to review the fiscal                                                                     
 note.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
  GLEN KLINKHART, DIRECTOR, ALCOHOL AND MARIJUANA CONTROL                                                                       
 OFFICE, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC                                                                         
 DEVELOPMENT  (via teleconference),  spoke to  the fiscal note                                                                  
 [FN 2 (CED)].  He indicated that the  board was going to be  a                                                                 
 part  of  the  task  force  and  the  Alcohol  and  Marijuana                                                                  
 Control  Office (AMCO)  would act  as the conduit  to support                                                                  
 its  work.  The fiscal  note  envisioned $52  thousand  for  a                                                                 
 long-term  non-permanent  Project  Assistant  (Range  16)  to                                                                  
 assist  with meetings,  research, compiling  information, and                                                                  
 report   finalization   for   eight   months   (June  through                                                                  
 January).  In  addition,  travel  was  reduced  to  the  bare                                                                  
 minimum  due to the positive  use of Zoom  meetings. He noted                                                                  
 that  AMCO  was supported  by  program receipts  and  in some                                                                  
 years,  they returned  some revenue  to the general  fund. He                                                                  
 believed that  the fiscal note was  sufficient to support the                                                                  
 bill. He  furthered that  the idea of the  taskforce was that                                                                  
 the  Marijuana Control  Board was  a licensing  and enforcing                                                                  
 board.  The larger issues  were often not  dealt with because                                                                  
 they were  trying to deal with day  to day issue and ensuring                                                                  
 public safety.  The larger issues with  the industry were not                                                                  
 within  its purview,  but the board  indicated  it desired to                                                                  
 address the issue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 3:38:21 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Representative  Wool  applauded  the  efforts  of  the bill's                                                                  
 sponsor and  staff. He had several  constituents approach him                                                                  
 about  the  marijuana  tax  burden  due  to  the  flat    tax                                                                  
 structure of $800 per pound. He recalled that when the tax                                                                     
 structure was adopted the wholesale price had been about                                                                       
 $5,000  per pound  and now  it  was approximately  $2,000 per                                                                  
 pound.  He exemplified the  Title 4 re-write  and noted  that                                                                  
  it was difficult to find agreement among a large group;                                                                       
 the task  force had 13 members. He  expressed concern that at                                                                  
 first glance  it seemed excessive and  thought that the issue                                                                  
 was  confined to taxes.  He worried  that the  task force was                                                                  
 too large.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 Mr.   Hardenbrook  answered   that   the  task   force  would                                                                  
 primarily  address the  economic issues  of the  industry.  He                                                                 
 noted    that   the    wholesale   tax    "incentivized   and                                                                  
 disincentivized  certain behaviors  within the  industry." He                                                                  
 elaborated  that the  task force  wanted to take  a 'holistic                                                                  
 look"  at the  industry and  try to  put it on  firm economic                                                                  
 footings.   He  characterized   the  industry   as  "uniquely                                                                  
 Alaskan."  He  respected  the  concern  about  the  number of                                                                  
 "cooks  in  the kitchen."  He  quoted the  book  of proverbs,                                                                  
 "without  advice plans go  wrong but with  many advisors they                                                                  
 can  succeed."  He  expressed  hope  that  a  group  of well-                                                                  
 informed people could find solutions to the problem.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
 Representative  Hopkins  interjected  that  the  task   force                                                                  
 would  not only  discuss  economic issues,  but  also examine                                                                  
 licensing,  regulation,  enforcement,  as  well  as  ways the                                                                  
 industry  could  maintain  its  Alaskan  owned  and  operated                                                                  
 structure.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
 3:42:28 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Representative  Wool  remarked that  if  the federal  law was                                                                  
 changed the  industry could be nationalized.  He deduced that                                                                  
 the   task  force   may  not  have   so  much   control  over                                                                  
 nationalization.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
 Mr.   Hardenbrook   replied   that   the   task   force   was                                                                  
 specifically  charged with finding  ways to maintain Alaska's                                                                  
 marijuana  industry.  Currently, a  marijuana  license holder                                                                  
 had to  receive an Alaska  Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD). He                                                                  
 agreed  that  national legalization  would  pose  a challenge                                                                  
 for  Alaska.  The  task force  would  address  how  the state                                                                  
 could  protect  the  industry  should  the national  paradigm                                                                  
 shift.  Representative  Wool thought  that the  market should                                                                  
 also have a voice.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 HB 289 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                             
 consideration.                                                                                                                 
  Co-Chair Merrick reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                      
 meeting.